"God"

[SadistSecret]

Ok, I'm interested in your thoughts on the subject of "god". Does He/She/It/They exist? Who/what do you worship, if anyone/thing? Point gotten, now let's hear it!

[Dizzybee]

there is no god...if there was then why would he make something so corrupt and violent? clearly i'm an atheist

[SadistSecret]

Dizzybee said:

there is no god...if there was then why would he make something so corrupt and violent? clearly i'm an atheist

You ask the age old question of "Why would a perfect God create a universe filled with evil?"...You're missing teh bigger picture. Why would a perfect God createa universe at all?

[RaspberryJelly]

ok, take a seat people. I cannot answer this one without going on and on and on.

First off. I don't believe in God. At one. Not one bit. I never have and contary to popular believe even when I'm dieing I will not anounce that I am then a believe.

Ok, so, I've been raised catholic and all the jazz. Christened, First Holy Communion, First confession, conformation...pretty much everything the church could throw at me and fanicy name. I attened a catholic school from the age of 4 till i was 11. Attended church every Sunday for those 7 years (i hated it).

Attending a catholic school yo get a very VERY narrow minded view of the world. We were taught nothing of other religions in RS classes....nor were we taugh that oh and by the way the world could have been greated by the 'big bang' yes. they left THAT out.

So, when at 11 I went on to High school, despite being a huge culture shock, it opened my eyes so much. Even when I went to church every sunday, said prays in school, i never believe in God, i just couldn't grasp the whole idea...it didn't seem believeable to me. So when at high school I just clung to the whole scientific idea. I'm that kind of person. My mind works more scientifically than oh we KNOW that on the 7th day god rested from creating the earth.

As DizzyBee (sorry i dont know your name lol) wrote "if there was then why would he make something so corrupt and violent?" << according to the catholic church god wants us to learn by our mistakes. WANK. ok for instance. the recient tsunami. how could anyone learn from that?....oh is it those countries faults because they are too poor to have installed detectors?...or is it their fault for their only income to be fishing and tourism?..so many people were out fishing and the number of dead came from foriegn tourisits?...or is it Gods fault, he created the earth, he put tectonics into place?...isn't this all Gods fault?...Even the arch bishop of cantbury said it made him question god. I'm sorry. someone high up in the english catholic church is saying that ooo perhaps there is no god because he wouldn't do this? Well. fuck. doesn't that give hope to us all!

Belief in god and religion all together come from people clining to what was written in a book eons ago...They are basing everything they believe on a bloody book. Not taking propaghanda, the fact that maybe someone was just bored for a few days and thought ooo i know what i can do for a laugh...

Its not just catholothism I don't agree with, its any sory of religion. Religion is the causes of so many problems. Its used as an excuse. Look at the problems Ireland has, hundred of people killed over the years all because of the rife between Protestants and Catholics. There are so many other named examples, but i'll spare you of them.

The church really annoys me (catholic church) the bible clearly states that gay relationships are against god (This is total wank.) Yet, reciently (in the uk anyway) we have an abundance of gay priests stepping out of the closet....i'm sorry how can u be a priest yet go against gods will?...i'm not saying priests should not be allowed to be gay, but it just amuses me somewhat?...it doen't make logical sence. I have a gay friend. He's catholic...BUT....he disagrees with gay marriage...it took me a while to get my head around that. But, it makes perfect sence.

I've exhaused all my ideas for now, there is more (i know there is) i'll update it later when I can think.

x

[SadistSecret]

OK, I guess it's my turn now...

I don't believe in any kind of "god(s)", but I do believe that there is something out there, and it unknowingly meddles in random affairs of random people, unlike the Christain god, who causes problems to humanity for his own selfish amusement.

[RaspberryJelly]

"You ask the age old question of "Why would a perfect God create a universe filled with evil?"...You're missing teh bigger picture. Why would a perfect God createa universe at all?"

I reckon it was some sick little game. 'God' was bored. He wanted to see if he could make people love, hate, kill each other...he wanted to see if he could create his own little power.

x

[silentdeath]

Now this is something to look at about everyones opinion about "GOD" but i am not really sure if there even is a god because if there was, then my life wouldn't have been soo fucked up as it is now. Everyone hates me, no one cares of me, I seem to never exist, and i am still lost in this fucked up world and no one seems to find me. I don't know what to do anymore so i will just stay hidden from it so if anyone tries to find me, stop looking because i will never come out for anyone to find.

[SadistSecret]

Hey...not everyone hates you and im sure there's someone who cares about you...

[silentdeath]

yeah at least i have been trying to come out but i just go back in and stay because the whole world hates me.

[SadistSecret]

The whole world doesn't hate you...i know I dont hate you...sorry if this sounds mean, but if youre going to rant abnout depression, do it on the life shit board, please...it's just yeah....

[FierceLikeTiger]

Well, I don't really know what to think about the God issue.
I grew up the daughter of a lutheran mother, a non-existant father. Then I had a sikh (indian) step-father, and then a muslim one. On top of that. I was baptized, recieved the sacrament of the sick, and all that jazz catholic. I went to catholic school on and off all my life....and when I came of age to be confirmed it was something I wanted to do, because at that point in my life I was searching for something to cling to. I became very devout (not to the extreme tho...just believed strongly, said my prayers...went to church sometimes, etc)

The day of my confirmation my priest and I had a discussion. He said that some of my friends (who were gay) were going to hell. I said that they were all god's children, and if he were a loving god he wouldn't punish them for something that wasn't their choice. He said that it was a choice..blah blah blah.

Since then, I moved away from my family and went to stay with my aunt and went to catholic school (moving from California to Iowa)...where I was repeatedly told I was going to hell for being a lesbian (I'm not...but that's besides the point)...after all, I was from the San Francisco Bay Area...therefore, I must be gay, right? Well...even my religion teacher told me I was damned.

I had a falling out with God when my health went to hell. After all, I was going to church, I was going to confession, I hadn't even been kissed yet! The worst thing I had done was think impure thoughts and masturbate (which are sins)...and even then, I did confess them. And yet...I couldn't understand why I was getting sicker and sicker.

At this point, I can't say that I don't believe in God, and I can't say that I do. But, I am exploring all the options to find out what suits me best.

[SadistSecret]

maybe you should be agnostic...believe in something, just not a "god"

[FierceLikeTiger]

That is for the most part, what I am at the moment.

[~Lady*RaVeN~]

I didn't have the patience to read everything on here, but I read as much as I could and here's what I have to say.

People take things to literally. Most people, when they hear "God" they think of him/her/it as being some real being out there somewhere. I really think that it's everywhere in everything. OUr lives aren't planned out for us, they never were. Life happens to us and our life goes in the directions that we push it by making our own choices.
I do believe that you can ask another power for help and get it, if you know how. There are all kinds of energys out there. Good and bad. It's a matter of balancing it, feeling it, being in tune with it, and knowing how to use it in your life to create your miracles, or what have you. What other people call "god" is in everything. The grass, the trees, the rocks, your body. The reason why bad things happen to you is because either you've surrounded yourself somehow with bad enrgy, your energy is off balance, or you've done something in the past that's come back to bite you.

Have you ever seen the movie stigmata? The writings from Christ the the church was trying to hide? That's all real. It's basically saying that the church has corrupted everyone's view on what a higher power is. It inside you and all around you and it's your own choice on how to use it for your own life.

It's really hard to explain, so if that made no sense. I'm sorry.

[Wraith Storm]

I read some of what was already posted, but to me, I am of the old ways. I believe that the Gods exist, that the Fates exist, and that everything has a soul. I am swayed by the old beliefs of shaminism, and paganism. I find that there is very little in life and or creation that does not exist. I do not see the Gods as people, rather more as spirits that guide and teach and protect. I see the fates weaving thier tapestry of life, pulling threads, and weaving new ones. I see the souls of the dead, merging into that of the newly born. I believe everything can be, should one believe in it.