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"God"
Apr 3, 2005 22:52:37 GMT -5
Post by SadistSecret on Apr 3, 2005 22:52:37 GMT -5
Wow...that was nice...well spoken...Thumbs up for you.
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"God"
Apr 4, 2005 10:56:41 GMT -5
Post by Fake Temporary Name on Apr 4, 2005 10:56:41 GMT -5
I dont know what to beleive in terms of God, or any other higher diety/being/whatever. I recognize the fact that there may be a higher being, but I also realize that if I blindly folow this way of thinking I could be devoting my life to something that doesnt exist. I may follow the ten commandments only to find that there is absolutly nothing after death, and that I wasted my life following pointless ideals. So I live my life how I want, I dont follow what religions command me to do. I really dont know what I should beleive.
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"God"
Apr 4, 2005 11:31:31 GMT -5
Post by SadistSecret on Apr 4, 2005 11:31:31 GMT -5
Just because you believe there's a higher power out there doesn't mean you have to follow it blindly. Take my belief for example. I don't believe in a "God" (read: sentient higer power that purposely and knowingly intervenes in select affairs of the universe). I believe in a nonsentient being that unknowingly intervenes in random events in the universe. I don't "follow" this higer power. It just exists. Maybe that's what you believe and you just weren't sure how to word it. Just some insight.
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Wraith Storm
Scribbles in the Dark
I am lost on the sea of love, and grief...
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"God"
Apr 6, 2005 20:42:09 GMT -5
Post by Wraith Storm on Apr 6, 2005 20:42:09 GMT -5
Hmmm sounds simple enough. I know that some people would say that all of us on here are blind. But I think that if you chose to regognize or even believe in something that might or might not exist that it is really a matter of choice. A person can consider facts, we have science telling us how the world was created, and that many different things that have great religious power, does not have any truth to them. Science clouds many peoples beliefs with facts. There are also the beliefs. People ignore science to chose belief in something disregarding that there are facts to prove otherwise. so its all a balance you can believe in something only to find out that there was nothing, or you can believe and find out you were right.
But personally I have a belief that whatever you believe in shall become the next reality you shall step into after death.
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"God"
Apr 17, 2005 3:57:42 GMT -5
Post by jamesvampiress on Apr 17, 2005 3:57:42 GMT -5
I guess I am the first Christian to speak up.
I firmly believe in God. I was raised Methodist and my church has been my 2nd home all my life.
What I believe is, God does not create evil, nor does he create sickness. Those, and all the bad things that happen in life come from satan. He is the evil one. Yes, you can argue that there is no "solid" proof God exists, because you cannot see him or touch him. However, i have "seen" proof of his existance in daily life. I watched a woman with ovarian cancer fight it 2 years, and I believe she only held on that long because of him. My aunt, she wanted children, and tried 8 years, and then was blessed with my older cousin Katie, and then 2 years later, with my younger cousin Lyzzy. I myself, at the time of my Fibromyalgia diganosis was very sick and weak and afraid i was dying. He gave me strenght and now i am a happy , grown woman, head over heels in love with a great man. I think had God not sent angels the day of my love's accident, he would have died and I never would have gotten to know him. God saved the man I love, the man i think I am going to marry sometime.
I believe he planned our lives from the day we were created. He knows when our lives are to begin and when they are to end. He brings all the good, joy, and happiness into our lives. I also believe he picked a certain person for each of us to spend the rest of our lives with, he just left it up to us to find them. As i said above, I think i have found mine.
I know there is a huge debate about homosexuality because of what the bible says. however, i believe that , even if a person is that way, God still loves them because we are all his children. He would never turn away one of his precious children.
God has given me strenght when I was at my weakest. I believe, and always will.
Its late so if I think of what else i was gonna say, I'll write it later
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"God"
Apr 26, 2005 16:04:30 GMT -5
Post by ~Lady*RaVeN~ on Apr 26, 2005 16:04:30 GMT -5
I'm going to have to disagree wit one thing that you said. I'm not saying you're wrong, tho...but this is how I feel.
I honestly don't think that our lives are planned out. That would mean that everything that we do and every path we go down and everything that happens to us is supposed to happen because that's how it was "planned". So take this for example....
A 14 year old girl who is sheltered by her parents finally enters high school. She meets a guy who is a couple years older than her and falls head over heels. It takes a little bit but he finally starts to notice her. She's not allowed to date but eventually he persuades her to sneak out, lie to her parents and come to his house. He tells her she's the center of his world, that he wants to marry her and have kids with her and that he would never do anything to harm her. But behind the scenes he's sleeping wil alomst ten other girls. The 14 year olds friends tell her what is going on but she won't bleieve it until she sees it. The boy tortures her mentally, puts her down, destroys her confidence, manipulates and controls her. He leaves her then comes back to her repeating the same vicious mind games. He then moves on to hitting her, throwing her into walls and raping he poor innocent body many, many, MANY times. This goes on for two and a half years before he disappears without a trace. Five years later the girl is still riddled with mental problems because of the torture that she was put through. She is anxious, she has SEVERE panic attacks, she hardley leaves her house, she can't go anywhere alone...not even into a store, she gets random bouts of severe depression and violent outbursts. She cannot keep a job, she cannot make a phone call, she cannot function properly as a human being....
So I suppose that all of this was planned out for me then right?
No, I disagree. Your life is made up of a series of descisions. In every situation you have a variety of paths to follow, you have a bunch of choices of which way to go. Then one choice leads you down one path, that leads you to a series of more descisions.....etc. etc. etc. You choose how your life goes. You life can also be effected by the choices of others. In my case it was a few things, my parents didn't tell me the dangers of the real world, they hid things from me hoping that if I didn't know, it wouldn't happen. This caused me to trust the wrong person just because he was nice to me. When he raped me, it was scary yes, but I didn't know that it was wrong or that it was even rape at all. I thought that's how sex was supposed to be, the guy was supposed to make the girl do everything even if she didn't want to and use violence to do it. So his choice to torture and rape me and mess with my head also affected my life.
But really what I'm trying to say is you make your own life by making choices there are infinite possibilities in infinite realities. Your life can go in so many directions, it's like a web and you choose where you go....no one else.
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"God"
Apr 26, 2005 16:38:04 GMT -5
Post by jamesvampiress on Apr 26, 2005 16:38:04 GMT -5
Thats where FREE WILL comes in. God also gave us free will to make our own choices. he knows where we will end up, but he lets the choices that get us there be our own. we are not perfect and he never intended us to be. and not to sound mean, because i was raped myself, but you need conciling and therapy to help deal with what happened to you.
thats all i got to say for now
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"God"
Apr 27, 2005 1:59:39 GMT -5
Post by ~Lady*RaVeN~ on Apr 27, 2005 1:59:39 GMT -5
I've been to counseling, thanx.
But like I said, I plan my own life, no one else.
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Wraith Storm
Scribbles in the Dark
I am lost on the sea of love, and grief...
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"God"
May 1, 2005 21:21:41 GMT -5
Post by Wraith Storm on May 1, 2005 21:21:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure I can agree.
I used to believe that our lives were planned, and that no matter what we tried, it was a path that something else had planned, and therefore anything that happened was sopposed to. I since changed my views.
I believe that a "Higher power" what ever one chooses to call it, for me to keep it simple, the Fates, yes they can give me an outline of all that can happen, they can show me the tapestry for my life, the people I could meet, the roads I could take, but ultimatly I choose which path to follow, i choose what to pursue, i choose who to meet, i choose who to love, they merely guided, and protected me as I stumbled along the rocky roads, and flew me along the roads as smooth as glass. I choose who I am, and where I go. they can offer me choices, but they do not dictate, or plan it for me. that I can't abide nor believe in any more. I know that for you free will is the determing (sp?) factor of what happens precisely, but I believe that it is ones own mind that chooses what happens. Higher powers merely show you what is available to you. they do not say when you are concieved,
"You will be born, you will be tormented, you will love, you will breed, you will observe, you will learn, you will die."
I can;t see that anymore. It would put everything I believe in out of place. It would mean that I am nothing more than a barbie doll with whom the Fates play with. I can't accept that. that is too confining. it means that I have no choice in where I go, that any desire I have is purely fictional. that to me feels wrong. so I'm sorry, but that does not apply to me.
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"God"
May 6, 2005 0:15:57 GMT -5
Post by ~Lady*RaVeN~ on May 6, 2005 0:15:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure I can agree. I used to believe that our lives were planned, and that no matter what we tried, it was a path that something else had planned, and therefore anything that happened was sopposed to. I since changed my views. I believe that a "Higher power" what ever one chooses to call it, for me to keep it simple, the Fates, yes they can give me an outline of all that can happen, they can show me the tapestry for my life, the people I could meet, the roads I could take, but ultimatly I choose which path to follow, i choose what to pursue, i choose who to meet, i choose who to love, they merely guided, and protected me as I stumbled along the rocky roads, and flew me along the roads as smooth as glass. I choose who I am, and where I go. they can offer me choices, but they do not dictate, or plan it for me. that I can't abide nor believe in any more. I know that for you free will is the determing (sp?) factor of what happens precisely, but I believe that it is ones own mind that chooses what happens. Higher powers merely show you what is available to you. they do not say when you are concieved, "You will be born, you will be tormented, you will love, you will breed, you will observe, you will learn, you will die." I can;t see that anymore. It would put everything I believe in out of place. It would mean that I am nothing more than a barbie doll with whom the Fates play with. I can't accept that. that is too confining. it means that I have no choice in where I go, that any desire I have is purely fictional. that to me feels wrong. so I'm sorry, but that does not apply to me. Thank you sweet heart. You said it better than I ever could.
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Wraith Storm
Scribbles in the Dark
I am lost on the sea of love, and grief...
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"God"
May 13, 2005 19:51:32 GMT -5
Post by Wraith Storm on May 13, 2005 19:51:32 GMT -5
Your welcome love.
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"God"
Jul 12, 2005 13:29:51 GMT -5
Post by sonofchurchfreaks on Jul 12, 2005 13:29:51 GMT -5
I beleive that there is a God and that there is a devil. I believe that God did not make evil. The universe was perfect until Adam and Eve sinned that is when evil came into the world. If you you think I'm a freak because of what I believe GOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!
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kpyro12002
Scribbles in the Dark
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"God"
Jan 3, 2006 19:27:13 GMT -5
Post by kpyro12002 on Jan 3, 2006 19:27:13 GMT -5
alright my beliefs about god. i give up on the detials, i really do just give up. dotcine can go to hell and people can make thier decisions. i believe in god but in the traditional chistian sense slthoug its based in christianity. i believe that god created the universe. and i believe he did it with the big bang. i don't like abortion. but i don't think the worlds ready for it to go away and i am also not opposed to the morning after pill. i also think anyone who says a cruel word to a woman who has had an abortion about her decision should tortured and killed. anyways i was a big uber christan for most my and then god kept killing people, mainly my parents. some of the time i believe in god becuase my life can't all just be bad luck. i must have pissed someone off.
i guess it comes down to i that i believe in god but i don't believe in his perfection. i believe god can be loving, and a fucking asshole.
i also believe that god gave us each our own heart and concious. so rather than following some bullshit person whether, peracher, priest, pope we should follow what we already know and believe. take sex for instince. sex is totally individual. one person may be at the maturity level to have sex when their sixteen, but they're are some people that are forty and still aren't mature enough.
trust yourself, kill the pope
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"God"
Jan 7, 2006 12:34:12 GMT -5
Post by SadistSecret on Jan 7, 2006 12:34:12 GMT -5
yet another one of kelsey's rants....and a very good one as well...
and yes the pope should die
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